Posts by Christ Alone

I too find it interesting of the Watchtower's constant accusations of copyright infringement. Does anyone remember the Johnny Walker Red ad that eventually showed up in the Watchtower? It was the same picture that they used. Didn't the society get sued for it?

I'll try to find the photo and post it here.

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Information Urgently Needed

by SCGrl in

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i just signed up although i lurked years ago.

i finally managed to move on and lost interest in ex-jw sites.

but now i am in a situation requiring a bit of detective work and the recalling of past occurrences and i really need to know the dates for the memorial every year from 1987 up to this year.

Christ Alone

Just a single rape and murder

Oh! Sorry, I was just joking about that. Didn't mean to make light of a serious thing!

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Did Paul Invent Christianity?

by smmcroberts in

i think the answer is largely yes.

please read my latest blog and see if you agree.. the witnesses had better stock up on goats and stones to make up for lost time!.

Christ Alone

What exactly does Paul ever say that directly contradicts what Jesus said?

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What REALLY Convinced You To Leave/Lose Faith in JWs?

by Recovery in

id like to know what personally convinced you jws are wrong about a particular doctrine/practice, that they are not gods true.people and/or what made you leave emotionally/physically.

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Christ Alone

Recovery said: And if, in the end it has been proven that JWs are not Gods people, I can live with that and accept that. Im only interested in the truth about God and everything it entails. So your assessment about me is a little off but somewhat accurate at the same time.

Thank you for the honesty, Recovery. I think that was big of you to admit, and with that attitude, you will find what you are looking for. We all are responsible for our decisions, and I personally chose not to follow the organization anymore because I cannot believe the claims that it makes about itself. But if you do, and you can prove to yourself that it is the only truth, then I respect that. I don't want to put you down for your beliefs and your journey, and I certainly don't want to make you feel like leaving the Watchtower automatically makes you bitter and angry. I've never been happier in my life. My concept of God is far different from what I had in the Watchtower. But I respect those that have a different belief than I do.

I wish you the best in your journey and hope you find what you are looking for. Don't let the haters get you down. Do your research and prove to yourself what is true. Test all things. (1Thes 5:21) and hold on to what is true. Remember that Jesus is the truth, not a man made organization. If you get that, then you will be fine. (John 14:6)

- Joe

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Detail SIMILARITIES between JWs and Mormons

by Black Man in

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in some of my cursory readings about mormons, they seem to be as cultish as jws, but i don't know as much about them.

what are some of the similarities you see in them and jws?.

Christ Alone

Here is a comparison chart from jwfacts.com

	Mormon	Jehovah's Witnesses	Seventh-day Adventist	Christadelphians
Origin	1800's America	1800's America	1800's America	1800's America
Founder	Joseph Smith	Charles Russell	Ellen White	Dr Thomas
Trinity	No	No	Yes, though some groups reject the Trinity	No
Narrow Salvation	Only one true religion	Only one true religion	Only one true religion	Only one true religion
Salvation Requirements	Faith, repentance, baptism, continued righteousness	Faith, repentance, baptism, continued righteousness	Faith, repentance, baptism, continued righteousness	Faith, repentance, baptism, continued righteousness
Armageddon	Not the end of this earth	Not the end of this earth	Not the end of this earth	Not the end of this earth
Armageddon	Destruction of most of mankind	Destruction of most of mankind	Destruction of most of mankind	Destruction of most of mankind
Time Prophecies	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Sabbath	Yes	No	Yes	No
Soul Mortal	No	Yes	Yes	Yes
Go to war	Yes	No	No	No
Promote Love and Strong Community	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Shun	Yes	Yes	No	Yes
Strict Moral Code	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes

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Detail SIMILARITIES between JWs and Mormons

by Black Man in

jw
friends

in some of my cursory readings about mormons, they seem to be as cultish as jws, but i don't know as much about them.

what are some of the similarities you see in them and jws?.

Christ Alone

I had that situation happen with us and the Mormons in the same territory before. Actually they were friendly guys. One of them said, "I thought you were a mormon until I saw that you had a colored shirt on. We're only allowed to wear white shirts when going door to door." I thought that was interesting.

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What REALLY Convinced You To Leave/Lose Faith in JWs?

by Recovery in

id like to know what personally convinced you jws are wrong about a particular doctrine/practice, that they are not gods true.people and/or what made you leave emotionally/physically.

.

Christ Alone

it would be impossible.for me to discuss such meticulous arguments without many hours of research.

Yes, it takes some research, and not the kind that JWs are used to doing. I didn't understand how to do REAL research until I left JWs. Research for a JW is merely getting out the WT library CD and seeing what the Watchtower ALONE says about any given subject. But real research is more in depth. I'm glad you are starting to see that, Recovery.

But we can start a discussion on just one topic that he discusses. We could talk about the history of false prophecy in the Watchtower organization. What the Bible says about it. What THEY actually said, word for word. How about starting there? Or we could talk about the practice of disfellowshipping. We could start there. Or the flip flopping doctrines and going back to previous points of view. The switching on and off of light, as it were.

It's a cop out, Recovery, to say, "It's too in depth and would take too long to talk about."

Here is what I personally think about you, Recovery. I think you did some SMALL bit of research in the past and got scared and ran back to "Mother". I think that you now want to "Debunk" all those that left due to what we feel are major reasons. But I think that you are terrified that you may read, see, or listen to something that gets you "doubting" again. Crisis of Conscience is one of those books that I think you want to stay away from for fear that it might cause you to have some major cognitive dissonance and make you uncomfortable. So you avoid it and try to ignore the facts presented.

I also think that you have come to this site with your mind made up about the organization and are not looking for truth. You are looking to defend at all costs. It reminds me of those that debate. If you watch a debate, it matters not what either side says. The person on the other side of the debate will not waver, no matter WHAT points are brought up by the other side. They are only there to prove their point and not to learn.

If I've judged your situation wrong, I apologize, Recovery. But I do not think I'm wrong...